Our guest today is Peter Joseph, who’s a client of ours from the Reality Mastery program.
Within 6 months of us working together, Peter was able to grow his business from standstill revenue to over $50k/m (and did all of this amidst the pandemic!)
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Hi guys, welcome to this new customer interview today. I’m super excited to announce we have Peter Joseph. He’s been with us for the past six months in the reality marshy program. Dude, I’m super excited to have you on board. Um, just a quick highlight. We’ve seen Peter go from, you know, kind of having his business wiped out his consulting business, his performance consulting business, wiped out by COVID to, um, taking that to now doing around 50 grand a month. And he also went from having a full-time job at, as a flight attendant to completely quitting that and doubling down on this full-time so, Peter, I’ll just let you do a quick intro about yourself, where you’re from and a little bit about you. Yes,
Sure. Also, Peter Joseph I’m from everywhere or in, in New York city grew up in Southern California. Uh, and now in the Washington DC area in Chesapeake beach, Southern, Maryland. Uh, and again, as quasi, you just mentioned just, uh, working on my own business now and, uh, taking that to where I want it to go,
Dude, your story has been so inspiring. Like I remember your posts in the group where you were like, nothing is going my way, nothing is happening. How do I keep, how do I keep myself positive? How do I stay in a good state of being despite that? And then all of a sudden it was just an asymmetric growth, right? Like all of your hard work, just, you just got rewarded for it. So yeah. I want to kind of speak about before you joined us in the reality marshy program, you know, what was lifelike, why did you make the decision to join?
Sure. Okay. So let me give you the condensed version of that. So, uh, as you mentioned, I worked for an airline, a flight attendant, um, which has lots of fun, loved it, but you know, not my lifelong dream and had a consulting business. Well, you know, present tense was still have a consulting business. Uh, I was doing it the old school way, which is, you know, go out there, pound the pavement, uh, find some clients, uh, the clients would kind of show up and I lucked into getting through word of mouth, a client that, uh, I was able to stay with for three years, but that contract ended and right about that point, I was just basically scraping by, I was just about to get another client. They were in the cruise ship industry. And of course COVID just completely decimated that. And I got to the point where, you know, I’m literally spending up savings and thinking, what am I going to do?
And I’d been exposed to this type of material in this type of program before. Um, but I would say probably more on a surface level, uh, than what I actually ended up with here. So long story short, I, uh, I just decided to actually a quasi up to, to give a shout out to you, uh, I’ve started watching your videos on YouTube, which were just recommended to me because of the content I had been watching. And I listened to a few of them for a couple of months. And I thought, you know, from what I already know, this guy, this guy knows what he’s talking about. Um, you know, I can usually see through the holes in some of the other things that I’ve seen, people present us like this, guy’s like nailing it every time. And I decided, uh, at the end of one of these videos, I said, you know what, I’m just going to go ahead and book that call and just let me just talk to him and just see if this is a fit and halfway through the conversation I knew it was. Um, and so signed up and just decided to commit to it.
Love it. Awesome, man. The rest is history, right?
It is. It’s ongoing history. Yeah. Yeah.
Good, good. I think I briefly remember us talking, like even back in that conversation and I don’t ask me how I remember. I just have a good memory in terms of our clients, but, um, I remember you mentioning how, like before, when you were in a corporate career, you know, you had your boss walk all over you and it was like, sort of like, you know, you were in this position of you were given things that you didn’t really want to do, you know, you were just following orders. So what was that like? And you know, looking back at that, how do you see yourself having changed?
Oh gosh, that’s the literally the million dollar question. Uh, so it was all I knew, you know, I think like so many people, I was just programmed. That’s what you do. You go to school, you get a degree. I got the master’s degree, you get into a corporation. I worked for a very prestigious media firm and, um, got into this director level job. And that’s what everybody dreams of. And they were paying me six figures and I figured that was life. Uh, I had a boss who was abusive essentially just absolutely abusive, not just to me, but pretty much to all of us who reported to him. And we’d been in each other’s offices crying about it, but we all stayed there because, you know, that’s the dream, right? That’s where we’re all supposed to be. And it’s probably that way everywhere else. And it finally got to the point where, you know, cutting a little fast-forwarding, it just was not possible to stay in that environment, uh, and keep my sanity.
Um, it, it just, it was a no win situation and essentially, you know, to get cut to the chase here. But the last thing my boss did was tell me he wanted to replace me because my work was fantastic. My results were fantastic. He couldn’t have done it without me, but from a personality point a standpoint, I want someone who’s more, I need somebody who’s more, you know, forceful in this and bully plan. That’s how we get things done here. And that’s just inherently, not me. Right. And you know, I laugh because I, I tried to change myself. I’ve learned I wasn’t doing it effectively through this program. Uh, but I decided to, to, to try to play act that knew it wasn’t me. Uh, I would literally literally in my office before meetings with him, rehearse and walk around how I was going to be, you know, like, and in his straw.
And I always felt like I needed a shower when I came out of those meetings. Cause I was so not being authentic at rock against everything I am inside. I just knew that’s not the way to have a happy life and get results. But again, it was kind of rock hard place, you know, I’m doing all, I know I’ve got, you know, a mortgage and the car payment and stuff I need, you know, I gotta make money. And it seems like it’s going to be everywhere. I had applied other places. It was kind of different places, different faces, same scenario. I was like, something has got to change, right. So when he said, I want to replace you with somebody. Who’s more like this, but his, his actual words were, I’m screwed. If you leave now, I need you for another year because you’re so great while I replace you, which was very confusing.
But he, he, he made it financially worth my while. And so I, I suffered, I stayed, I left, but it was the best thing that could have happened. It turned me around to, I’ve got not only do I know inherently, there’s another way to live and be happy and be more successful than I’ve been here, but I know that’s out there and I just need to find it. And I just basically started looking and was already on that trajectory through a couple of other programs that I had been part of. Uh, but when I saw reality mastery, uh, in your presentations, quasi on YouTube, and then, um, you know, the conversation we had, there was something about your program that the two things for me, one, it made it extremely clear to it seem to cut right to the chase, some of the other programs they’re great. And they had the same correct principles, but yours is sort of for me cut right to the chase on it. And the third thing was that it was, uh, full of things that were actionable that I could understand and dive into right away. And it, it got me results faster than what I had been doing for the past year or so. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, you know, the, the better, the fit, the better the results.
Yeah. So that’s
Really awesome to hear. So you went from that career that was basically like abusive and toxic with that boss too. Did you jump straight into, you were like, you know what, I’m going to start my own business.
I did. Uh, I did. I had been thinking about doing that for years and I had all kinds of paradigms in my head telling me why I couldn’t, I didn’t know enough. I never run a business. I’m not good enough. If this vice president at this company is telling me that I’m not good enough, then you know, all of that. Um, I got to the point where I had interviewed for another similar job in another very prestigious company, uh, they were going to make me the offer. I mean, they called my boss and he said, yeah, I think they’re going to make an offer. And I thought, Oh my gosh, what I done? I can’t, I can’t, I cannot jump back into that same, uh, you know, I hadn’t changed on the inside. So of course everything I was attracting was a different location, different people, same thing I’d said, I need to do something else.
What do I really want? What do I really want? And so I that’s when I joined the airline, I’ve a friend of mine who had done the same things that start your own consulting business. I’ll show you how I did it a few years before you, and go back to flying just simply because you loved it and it’ll give you your health insurance. And I thought, what the heck I put in? I put in a, um, I’d done that, that job right after college. I applied again, just out of the blue, got in, got the health insurance, got that the paradigm that says you need at least a baseline that was covered, but it was so incredibly flexible that it allowed me the mental space, the health benefits, not much money, but a little bit of a baseline. In addition to what my boss did had the financials, but I got in there and it gave me a runway.
So I had about a year to start my own business. And it was extremely scary. I am not, I’m not gonna lie. I was terrified. Um, I figured I didn’t know what I was doing. This was before the reality mastery program, but I knew enough at that point to know that somehow I had to hold it in my head, I had to have the vision of it and try to get to a calm feeling of it being done, which was not easy in the beginning. And the little bit of that, that I did, I gave myself a year to get everything set up. Uh, and literally it was, uh, uh, within about a week before that year was up, uh, I out of the blue, uh, landed this contract from word of mouth and it just kept going from there.
Got it. So tell us a little bit more about your business. Like what does, what do you do, who do you work with typically?
Yeah, sure. So there’s really two aspects to the business. So what I was originally doing, which is organizational development work, it’s basically a performance improvement and people development within organizations is primarily, I would say right now that’s 50% of what I do. So things like, um, uh, developing employees, um, performance management, helping companies to align everybody’s work with their strategy, getting the systems in place, selection, and hiring, getting the right people and that standard kind of stuff with diagnosing the issues and getting those systems in place. But the other 50% that I’ve added more recently is very similar to what you do, uh, with more of a, some individual work for sure. But I want to take that work into corporations, which is what I’m also doing now. So it’s, it’s basically the mindset change, uh, and these principles of creating the reality that you want to create. Certainly I do that with, but I’m bringing that into the corporate work, uh, as well. That’s really essentially that’s the, those are the two facets.
Got it. So you basically work with organizations as opposed to individual clients, right? Yeah.
Uh, but right now I would say it’s probably 60% organizations, 40% individuals. Yeah.
Got it. Got it. And so you started that as a timeline, just so I’m clear on it one and a half years ago.
Well, the, the consulting business, the organizational consulting business is five and a half years ago. Got it. Uh, the individual work that I’ve been doing is within the, about the last year. Okay. So the mindset work last year. Okay.
Got it. So the organizational coaching, you’re doing it for like five years, but what was like, what were your revenue, what were your numbers like? And cause I don’t know when you were at that job too, when you quit, because I assume you started up the organizational coaching right off. Do you quit
Right after? Yes. So I can even give you years if you want them. So I left the media company in 2015, um, and literally started the business like at the same time. Right, right. As I left, I literally started it right then. So 2015, I want to say February. So it’s going, going on six years, five and a half going on, but actually it’ll be six years next month. Time flies. Yeah. And so revenue wise, it was inconsistent my first year, as I was setting things up, I had a loss the second year when I got that client, um, a hospital client I worked with, I did, I’m trying to remember now I did about 120 for the year, that year, which was okay. But not really where I want it to be. My goal has always been seven figures. Uh, I think the year after that I did like maybe one 50, one 60, somewhere around there. My best year I did 209. Um, and then it dropped off from there. So it’s, you know, the last year, um, this year I’ve done pretty well. Uh, the year, last year, for example, I took another loss, so it’s been kind of inconsistent and it’s been in the lower end of six figures, not a good year and like a loss on other years. So it, it was it oscillated.
Got it. Yep. Okay. And, um, I suppose the biggest reason like the business went out was because of COVID right. One of the big hits.
Yes. Um, I’m going to talk at, uh, two sides of my mouth. If you look at it from a traditional point of view, that is correct. It’s like, it’s, COVID you people aren’t doing anything. Um, this company I’m working with works with the cruise ship industry. Um, they’re, they’ve been decimated. They, so yes. But from what I know now, of course from your program that doesn’t have to have any bearing on anything. Yeah. That’s, that’s what ultimately got me the results, even in the middle of this pandemic year,
A hundred percent. So just as a highlight, what was like, you were in the program from, uh, you know, six, seven months ago. Yeah. Up until now, but you didn’t get like overnight results, obviously you
No, no, no, no. Not over, fairly quickly took a few months, but not overnight. No.
Right. No magic pill.
No. Oh no. But
Give us a little bit of a highlight of the, of the hero’s journey. Like where did you start off? Where was the business then? And internally. Cause I, from what I remember, there was a lot of uncertainty at that point you had. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Tell us a little bit about that. Yes,
Sure. Uh, so, you know, literally the contract that I thought I was going to have for the year under my old school way of doing my business evaporated and that journey really starts in my own mind where I was like, Holy Moses, we’re in the middle of a pandemic. Nobody’s going to want to Pyre me. I can’t go in and work. One-on-one what am I going to do? I guess I’ll go back to some sort of corporate job. No, I don’t want to do that. So there, there was, there was a fight going on in me. Um, and paradigms that I had in my head that said my options are extremely limited and I may have to go back to some corporate job I don’t want to do. And honestly, what I did was I somehow managed to quiet the chatter in my head enough to say, all right, there’s gotta be a solution out there.
I don’t know what it is. And that led me to searching for that solution. And YouTube was one of the channels for that. And as I searched YouTube for anything in this realm that would help me, you know, I was drawn to things and things were recommended. That’s when your programs showed up. As I mentioned earlier, I listened to a lot of what you said from what I already knew. It made sense. You know, we had the phone call, boom dove in. Now the one thing I really want to make clear, you talk about it. Not being a magic bullet, that programming was still in there. Yep. So there was definitely an oscillation. There was the excitement in the beginning. Uh, there was the, Oh my goodness. Have I done the right thing? Um, maybe I’m crazy and I shouldn’t have done this. No, no, no, no, no.
It’s okay. You’re doing the right thing. There was a, there was a lot of back and forth, which makes sense when you’ve got a paradigm programmed in there and you’re trying to put a new one in. So the best way to describe my journey is, you know, you think of that old analogy of a jar of muddy water, which is what you don’t want. And you gradually trickle clear water into it. It doesn’t happen overnight, but gradually the water clears out. And all of a sudden you look at it and very quickly you have a jar full of clear water. That’s the best metaphor that I can use to describe that journey. So honestly, I have my moments of doubt for sure, a lot and terror a lot and wanting to run back to what I knew a corporate job a lot. But as I continued to apply that gradually like the clear water going into the jar of muddy water, it gradually released itself.
And then little by little, there were little signs of results. Um, and then actual results, um, that started to happen. So, you know, the, the one thing I can say that really kept me on the rails during the journey was to trust the process, which was pretty easy to do, especially the way it’s all very clearly laid out. And frankly, to make the commitment to doing the work, you know, commitment to doing the work and you know, I’ve got my, uh, I’ve got my binder it’s right here. Uh, I did the, um, the, the jumping off point for me was the, and I’m thinking back to week one, it was the, um, I’m going to call it by the wrong name. It was the seven layers. Yeah. And so I did that, the seven whys and I went onto the group and I asked if somebody would help me and somebody did a, which was great. And then she recommended to me, which I, I definitely want to pass along, cause this is going to sound a little trivial, but this was kind of the game changer for me. She said, go through all of the modules, get yourself a binder, print, everything out, put it in slip sheets. So you have no excuse, but it’s all right here. It’s there. You don’t have
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To go over that. I’d love to know,
Uh, Kim bell Delcon I think her name was got it. I think that’s right. Um, yeah, she’s still very, very vocal in the group. And I thank her for that, because that gave me no excuse. So, you know, I wake up in the morning and go, okay, I’ve got to do this. Um, I didn’t in the beginning, I had to say, okay, wait, did I download that? Okay, where is it? Okay, let me find it. Nope, it was all right here. It’s right there. Do the work that set me up to do the work. And honestly, from there, it was a matter of doing the work. Um, and from there, for me, any way in the journey, the most pivotal element of the results that I got, I will say up, down inside, which was week two. Now it took me three weeks to do week two, uh, because to do week two, I didn’t want to rush it.
And to do week two effectively, I had to really think about and get clear on what I wanted. Part of what I discovered in this program is what I thought I wanted on the surface in a way was what I had been programmed to want or expect. So I had to really take some time to, to get under that and say, no, no, no. What, where am I limiting myself? What do I really want? And that’s what I thought. I want seven figure a year income, uh, time, freedom, money, freedom. And I want to be helping as many people as I can in the world to live fulfilled, successful lives, understanding these principles. And I’d love to be able to do that in corporations as well, where I, I think it’s really needed. And so it was like, okay, great. Now week two was marvelous because it just took all of these things that could be disparate elements, you know, have your, have the goal in mind, have your affirmations in mind, have your vision board in mind have your, which normally it’s like, you’re trying to do a hundred things.
I thought this is brilliant because it puts everything into one, easy to manage and easy to commit to on a daily basis, the package for better, or for lack of better terms. Right. And so that made it so easy to have all of that. Know what I want, have all the tools there at my disposal and that marvelous tracking sheet, because, you know, I will admit there are a couple of days where I missed something or I didn’t add, I don’t know. I think I’m like most people when I see enough red marks or enough nose, I’m like, Oh no, no, no, even now this is not going in the right direction. We need to get back on this. Uh, and even though I didn’t do it perfectly, I did it pretty much every day. I still do. It ended up taking a lot less time as time goes on. In fact, it’s time for my 90 day, uh, refresh, which I’ll be working on this week as well. Um, and that, that basically was advent for me on that journey after week two, you know, there were other tools, techniques, the, the mirror, uh, exercise. Absolutely for sure. And the game changer that I, I bow down and thank you for that pure technique.
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Where everything started to shift for me. I mean, the concept that you taught about everything already being created, it it’s already there. Everything’s the way to fly airplanes that the Wright brothers more or less downloaded consciously or unconsciously using these principles that was there when dinosaurs walked the earth. So that took the strain off. It wasn’t a sense of, Oh my gosh, I have to create some it’s like it’s there. And it’s quasi says in the program, I remember all the different scripts for the different movies. I can still see your graphic on that. Which one of those do I want, because all I have to do is use these techniques. And for me, it was primarily the pure technique to project myself into that version. That’s already been created that I want and doing that. And it got me to the point where I actually really got to the point where I could feel it as if it were real.
And then I would, didn’t have to do it for very long couple of minutes. And then I would kind of come back, but still have the feeling of it. And I got to say, once I started doing that on a regular basis, everything popped quickly. Um, I started taking actions. I normally wouldn’t take, you know, I started a Facebook group for my, for my business. Um, especially around these principles. Um, I started reaching out to people that I normally would have been afraid to reach out to within about a month, maybe two month and a half, two months, I had 300 and something people in the group they’re engaged. I had content, uh, in the group learning content. I started doing lives and videos every month. Now I do a three day live on Facebook teaching all of this stuff. I never would have done that before.
That just would not have been in my, my idea of who I could be. And I was scared, you know, a lot of these steps I took, I ideas came to me using these principles and especially the pure tech that, you know, you project into the 2.0 version of yourself. My experience has been, you start attracting 2.0 inspiration and 2.0, ideas. Now there’s still that, that little bit of terror, like, Oh my gosh, can I do this? I was like, you know what? Yeah, just do it, just do it. And I’d put out the invitation to my group and every, you know, my personal social media, okay, I’m doing this three day thing. I didn’t have any three-day thing planned. It’s like, I already told everybody committed beforehand. People have accepted. So I got to do it now. And of course they went very, very well. And I started booking clients through that.
Um, and you never knew that this would be possible.
I knew it would be possible for other people. Right. I didn’t, I didn’t see it as something I would be capable of doing effectively. It just scared me. It was so out of my comfort zone. Right. Um, yeah, but
So it, it seems like the biggest game changer for you. And also this is from what I saw in the group was getting, again, clear on what you want. Absolutely becoming that version of yourself and continually being true to that version of yourself in your actions and in what you focus on. And finally doing those uncomfortable things to expand your comfort zone, going out there and just saying, you know what, I’m just going to do it anyways. Let’s see what happens from here.
That’s it. But one thing I’ve got to say that’s really important is it’s those four things and it’s in that order as well. Yeah. It’s gotta be in that order. And you know, the other thing that, um, I credit with the success that I’ve had to date is doing it on a consistent basis. You know, it’s not enough in just from my own experience. Cause I’ve been on the side where I, I, I would dabble at it like a couple of times a week. I might write out some goals and kind of meditate on them and all of that. And then the rest of the time I was pulled back into my default, right? So the traction wasn’t there, it’s doing that effectively on a regular basis and something else I I’m, I’m not certain that you deliberately put this in the program anywhere you probably did.
But what I found in my experience of doing this is it got very easy to do. I didn’t have to like pull out a sheet and, you know, I could just, I got to the point where mentally the muscle had been developed. I could just go there. And I found myself not just doing it in the morning and then the evening, and then the wild West in between where I just get pulled into whatever cause that, that wasn’t working too well. I found myself catching myself when I was maybe drifting back, the drifting backs started to subside. It didn’t happen that often. So then I would find myself. It still does sometimes, but not that often. I would find myself having a moment. I’d be folding some laundry and go, Oh, I can do a quick little pure technique while I’m folding the towels while I’m running the vacuum cleaner while I don’t recommend meditating while you’re driving.
But sometimes at, at a traffic light or something, just, you know, staying conscious. Of course, I would just think, okay. And I just start picturing myself the 2.0 version or picturing a scenario. You know, I had this thing where I would start picturing a hole. It’s going to sound silly, but a whole line of clients, they all have contracts. They all have pens that have these different little colored red and blue and yellow feathers. I’m in like a podium and they stretch as far as the eye can see, and they’re going me next silliness. But I would, I would picture things like that in those moments. And I realized these are techniques once I got the hang of them, which didn’t take long, I could just do that in 10 seconds or 30 seconds. And it bridged the bridge to the, I guess you could call it a gap at bridge, the gap between doing my formal morning practice and my evening practice.
It just sort of sustained it throughout the day. And once those pieces started coming together, which for me, probably about three months into the program, or so somewhere around three, between three and four months of everything that I mentioned and doing that on a regular basis. And then, you know, as you mentioned, taking the appropriate actions that were inspired from that, those actions just led to results. Now I do want to say one more important thing here, because I’m gonna, I’m gonna fess up and, and, uh, be honest, there’s a tendency what’s happened to me to go, okay. So I did well $67,345. So I can kind of, uh, I’m good. I can skip it. And I, I, I kinda fell into that a little bit. Um, so you know, one lesson I’m learning in my evolution is this is ongoing. It’s like brushing your teeth or taking a shower. You know, you wouldn’t skip a day or two days or three days or a week. Um, and it’s, it’s the same here,
But at the same time though, you see that over time, as you mentioned, it becomes muscle memory. Like if you just become one with it, you know, it’s not a separate from you. So you don’t have to try so hard afterwards. There isn’t as much activation energy to do it, but it just becomes like a natural way of
That’s exactly. Right. You know, I liken it to learning how to drive. You know, when you first learned how to drive you’re, you’re like this and you’re thinking about everything and now you just kind of drop, well, you have to hit the steering wheel, but you drive now and you know, you get to your destination and it just, your, your subconscious just drove the car. You weren’t even really, you can’t even remember most of the drive. Right. It’s muscle memory. It’s, it’s, it’s very much like that. Yeah. In my experience,
One interesting thing to note Peter is that you’re not stranger to taking a risk, right? Like, even though you’re burning through your savings, you still invest in that program because you know, somewhere deep inside you that this is going to work, you have that faith.
Yeah. Yeah. How do you, for those of people who are
Afraid to make that leap to go into their businesses full-time or afraid to take that leap into joining a program that they think would help, what would you say to them?
Oh, good question. The first thing I’d say is that’s totally normal because I was there too. Um, I, I, I would probably say, take a calculated. I like to use the word well-reasoned, that’s better take a well-reasoned risk. Well, recent risk. So thankfully by the time I got to your program, I had invested in myself enough a lot more the cost of your program for some things, um, some got great results, some didn’t, but my way of looking at it that I would share with everybody is when you’re taking a well-reasoned risk, you’re really looking at the program. You’re seeing if it’s a fit for you and you get to the point as I did where, you know, you’d know, you can feel it you’ve done. You can intellectually, you see it in here, you feel it. You know, what, if you got to lose, take the risk.
Um, that’s just, just jump in. Um, and even when I left my corporate job and all of that, it was a well-reasoned risk. I had a game plan in place. I knew that if push came to shove, I could get another corporate job doing what I do. They’re plentiful. And there’s not a lot of people that can do what I do and do it very well. So there’s always that kind of well, recent risk. And, and once I had that kind of in place, and I knew that this was the right thing, my advice is take that well-reasoned risk the reason. And I realized it in myself, the reason for not doing it is the old 1.0, paradigm of yourself that you have in your pet. You know, and as I coach people as well in my own business, you know, I see that is prevalent. I see a lot of people who could totally much more easily than they think achieve what they want, but they won’t take the jump. They won’t take that well-reasoned risk to achieve what they want because they have all of the mindset and excuses about the 1.0 version where they are. And I see them kind of going in that circle. The only way to break the circle is to, is to take that well-reasoned risk.
Yeah. It’s kind of like acting out of yourself, right? Like, you’re this 1.0 self and you want to become two point, Oh, you know, you need to do this, but you just can’t because it’s like, Oh, this is just not me. But then a part of you is like, no, you know what? I need to do this. And it’s so uncomfortable, but whatever, let’s just do it.
That’s a really good point. The point is, and I think this is really a good point, actually, that just occurred to me. It’s going to be uncomfortable. It’s not, Oh, well, when I feel comfortable doing that, you’re not going to feel comfortable doing it until you dive in and start doing it. You’re just not. And I have come to understand, in my experience, at least I can only speak for myself that this fact that it’s uncomfortable is a really good sign. That means that you’ve got a big enough goal, right? Because if, if the goal is in your comfort zone, just by definition, it’s not really a goal. There’s no growth there. If it’s in your comfort zone, it might be a lateral move, but it’s not a goal. If it’s uncomfortable, that means that you’re stretching, you’re growing and you’re taking a step to where you want to be.
And I would say to people who are, you know, having that hesitation, think about anything that you have achieved in your life to date. Some of it was voluntary. Some of it, you were kind of, you know, it’s like circumstances just shifted and you had to, but in either case, if you think about it, you were scared to a certain degree each and every time. And then look where you are now and look how you have adapted to it and look how that’s not scary anymore. So the, the, the fear is normal. And congratulations, if it’s scary, because that means you’re on the right track. And again, take that well-reasoned risk and just take that next step anyway. And then that fear just dissipates,
Right? Yeah. Just like you did with, um, burning through your savings and not seeing anything coming in, but then you were still able to crowd out those thoughts, that the doubts. Right. So I would love to know how you did that, you know, after you joined the program and you have all of these doubts, you’re on the rails, you know, what kind of, what did you even take away from the program that helped you consistently stay in that state and crowd out everything else?
So, two things really one is I mentioned earlier, reminding myself, everything’s already been created and I’m downloading a reality regardless. So it was the reminder to me, you’re going to be creating regardless. It’s sort of like their principles here. If I remind myself, like if I don’t understand gravity and I walk to a cliff and step off at gravity, doesn’t care that I’ve never heard of gravity. Hadn’t under, didn’t understand it. I’m going to get that result. So it was for me, honestly, re just I do it a lot in the beginning. And I still do, even now reminding myself of that and saying, these principles are going to bring you your reality regardless. So knowing how this works, now you can stay in doubt and fear and use that imagination faculty to imagine. Cause I was the King of imagining worst case scenarios. I mean, I could just, I have a champ at that and they always ended with me living in a cardboard box, under an overpass, you know, every single time.
And I could still, I could easily still go there, have to stop that. But I had to remind myself I I’m doing doing it anyway. Those conversations, what I’m imagining out of fear and doubt I knew was bringing me downloading the reality of that fear and doubt and the situation that I don’t want. And I basically just said, this isn’t much of a choice. I can Willy nilly, just go with the wind and let it take me there, understanding these principles now, or I can do this every day and deliberately use it going back to the car analogy. I can just sit back and, but the car do this and blame the car and the road. Or I can understand how a car works and focus on using the steering wheel and the brake and the gas pedal to drive it to where I want it to go.
That’s really what did it for me. And that for me, gave me the faith to know that this was going to work. It’s just that a low reminding of that gave me the faith to know that it was going to work. And a little ironically, it was thinking about when things didn’t work. Like I look at the situation I’ll disclose here. I look at the situation with that abusive boss that I had and people said, Oh, why aren’t you mad at him? I said, well, I was for awhile, but not anymore because I realized this is going to sound strange. I take responsibility for that because the way he was treating me was what I was envisioning in my head and focusing on in my head. And 1.0, me did excellent work, but I did excellent work because I was terrified of not doing excellent work.
I was so afraid I wasn’t good enough. And I was going to fail that I overachieve and to everybody outside, it looked like I was just confident and amazing, but what I got from him in that situation, when I look back on it, exactly matched what I was doing inside of myself. And so in a weird way, that gave me the faith because I said, okay, well, if I didn’t know what I was doing now that I understand these principles. And I think back to how, what I didn’t want happen because that’s literally what I was focused on, right? To me, that was the proof that this works. It’s like, all right, so now I’m going to do this deliberately. And I decided to do it scientifically. I said, let me, let me apply this like a scientist and see what results I get. And I got by just changing that up, um, you know, focusing on the 2.0 version of me and getting into the, the, uh, non-physical, I guess is the best way to put it reality of it and feeling the feeling of it on a regular basis.
Just like I attracted what I didn’t want doing that unwittingly. I deliberately attracted what I did want. Right. You know, and I’m at a point now where, you know, just a couple of days ago, another potential client found me, um, without me even looking for it. And we’ve already had one conversation, I’ve got another one coming up in a couple of days. So it looks like there’s another one on the books. So, you know, all of that led to, as you mentioned, uh, you know, having a clear idea, you know, committing to it, the, taking the actions toward it, um, which gets results. But I’m also finding that there’s almost a serendipity to it in some cases, without me really taking any action. There’s also that element where things just sort of line up and shift, uh, on their own. So there’s a little bit of both of that going on, both.
Great. And also you kind of like choosing your own destiny, right? They both apply. Exactly. That’s fantastic, Peter. So yeah. It’s awesome. Seeing you go from like being inconsistent, not being in control, being subject and, and blaming external circumstances, being in that people-pleasing mode as well, to being confidently running their own business, doing these uncomfortable things, but even being comfortable in this discomfort. Right. Well said. Yeah. Yeah. And also now taking it to higher six figures doing 50 grand a month, you know, and now just working on keeping that consistent. So I would like to ask you, what’s next, you know, for the, for the next milestone, what would you like to see happen in 2021?
So 2021 for me, but milestone is seven figures. Okay. It’s scaling what I do and it’s seven figures. And so the 2.0 version of me now that I’ve gone through this journey and see pelvis works and how relatively quickly it’s six months or so, I got to where I am. Now, if I can get here, then I can get to seven figures. If I can do $67,000 in change and a month in three and a half weeks with these principles, then I can use that to get to a hundred thousand dollars a month in seven figures. And what I will say has also happened, you know, you get into the 2.0 version of yourself and becoming that 2.0 version. My experience has been before taking 2.0 actions. Pardon me? There’s an inspiration 2.0 ideas start to come in. That wouldn’t have come in before that leads to the action.
So for me now it’s scaling what I do, the, the, um, potential client that I mentioned a few moments ago. We’re in talks now to see if we can work together. There are, there are global consulting firm and they want me to design a program for them, uh, that I would own that they would get 10% of that they would send out to all of their global clients and have their consultants, uh, facilitate it. So I don’t even have to go out and do all of that work. Um, which again, that was not a wait that wasn’t a 1.0 that I wouldn’t even have occurred to me. It just wouldn’t have. And now all of a sudden, you know, that idea flashes into my head, you know, it’d be great is if I had a program that could go global, but I don’t want to run a global consulting firm as the CEO with, I don’t want to, but I want it to, and I just imagining that and using these principles, pure technique and all of that, to imagine that and what kind of person I would be, and, you know, walking around like that during the day, as silly as it may sound to some people, I got an email a couple of weeks ago from this firm, they found me on LinkedIn and said, we think you’ll be a fit.
And I thought, uh, well, something in me said, you know what? Just talk to them, just talk to them, just what could go wrong. Right? Yeah. And it turns out that, you know, we’ll have one more conversation obviously next week, but it looks like that’s going to be a fit, but the takeaway, whether it’s them or not, that to me is an early manifestation of moving into the direction of what I want, which is a program that goes global that I don’t have to have my sleeves rolled up in every day. Um, that brings me the income I want and allows me to have the positive impact that I want with it, with an ease and a freedom to it. So that, to me, the fact that all of that just went BIM, bam, boom came into place without me struggling to go out there and make it happen to me.
I, I see that as an early manifestation. And again, to me, proof that these principles know taught in the program are real and they actually work. And there’s also a part of me now, that’s not so attached to the outcome as I used to be. I just know it’s going to work. So how I don’t care how it works out. I, I just know it’s gonna work. So when I know exactly it doesn’t have to be this company, it doesn’t have to be that client. I just know it’s working, it’s coming. I feel it. I see it. And it presents itself to me. And again, that takes a lot of the strain and resistance out of it, which ironically slows it down.
So, you know, if I could summarize that, the takeaway for me has been, yes, you need to do the work, but this, the inside, that’s the primary work, not the, okay, I’ll do this when I have time. But right now I’ve got to do my social media and I’ve got to call people. If, if, if you’re, if you don’t have this right, the actions don’t get you, the results doing this inside work gets the results has been my experience and inspires. In my case, it inspired me to the ideas of which actions to take. And in a lovely way, it always turns out to be fewer actions and easier. Instead of forcing myself through a hundred things that everybody says I have to do to get this result, I get inspired to maybe the 10 things that I need to do to get the result.
There’s still some work. There’s still some, some action, but it’s, it’s not cart before the horse. It’s, it’s the inside first that inspires the actions to take on the outside. Dude, you’re making me want to go through the program. It’s good. Again, I, I will say, I will say this publicly. I’m, I’m starting the program again. Uh, and one thing I wanted to mention when I recommended to everyone, one of the things that helped me to stick with the program is putting everything in slip sheets, in a binder, uh, that also, uh, not only makes it easy to go back and review when I start the program again, but I also listen downloaded all of the audios and no excuse to not make time for them because I listened to them in the car. So that week I just had the audio is playing through the speakers in my car.
It’s like, if I’m driving to the grocery store or to wherever I could listen to music, I could listen to satellite radio. I could, but captive audience. Why not just listen to it in the car then I have absolutely no, I, I removed every excuse. That 1.0 Peter would have come up with and, you know, repetition, repetition every day, listening a couple of times to that same, uh, message and audio and doing this work every day built, as you said earlier, that, that, um, consistency in that muscle memory. So a hundred percent long story short, it works.
Yeah. So just before we conclude, I also wanted to get your take on the community because you’ve been pretty active in the community. Um, and you’ve engaged with some of the members. So what’s it like for you being in this, you know, lifetime community of six, seven, eight figure earners and you know, just not talking about just business, but the underpinnings that make business work, the operator behind the business, you know?
Yeah. I can, I can definitely, um, tell you what that’s been like for me the best way I can answer that question is that this way of thinking this, that I’m going to say, thinking this way of being is counter-intuitive so left to our own devices, going through it in a world where 97 or 98% of the population is that has no knowledge or really much interest in this. My experience has a tendency to pull me back into that. So having the community of like-minded people really helped a lot. Now this community has been a little bit different because I’ve been in various forms of communities where it was really just all about the spiritual side of things. But for me having this community where it’s not just the spiritual side and the principles, but they’re also people that have similar goals and people that are focused on business, uh, or it could be career professional, whatever, but having both of those elements together is rare.
I mean, that hardly exists any place. Yeah. You know, there’s usually the people that are all, you know, it’s business, business business, and I’m, I’m in a couple of those groups, not very active in them where it’s, you know, read this book, take these 10 steps. Okay. What’s your secret? How did you get to that? Oh, tell me the 15 steps that you took to get to that result. Seven figures. And then if that’s the secret, if you can just tell me those same 15 steps, I’ll get there too. Why didn’t I get there? Cause that’s not how you get there. It’s it’s that person got there because of what they did in here. And so to be in a group that has both of those things, I’m trying to think of another group that has both of those things. I think I might’ve done in one group that even comes close to having both of those things. But for the most part, you’ve got to pick one or the other and I find not having them both together, the results are watered down.
Hmm, absolutely. Yeah. The community has been just beyond my own imagination. I didn’t see it to be like this. And it’s just so great because everyone’s helping each other, you know?
Well, that’s the key and there’s something else too. You know, I have found a lot of the time I’m encouraging other people. I’ve had people from the group that have messaged me even and said, can you help me? Can you walk me through this? Can you share your experience? And that may sound noble to do, but I’ve gotten so much out of that as well because by listening to somebody else talking through it, a bunch of us might be responding to some, something somebody posted where they need some insights. There’s a, there’s a, what’s the word I’m looking for synergy, I guess, you know, where the result is far greater than the five or six people that are participating in that discussion. The result just mushrooms out. And even through being on the giving end, in many cases in the group is also very powerful and helpful and helps to, uh, enhance
You learn better by teaching. Right? Absolutely.
So, so true. Yup.
Awesome. Yeah. Peter, I guess, uh, I think we’re hitting the hour Mark. I think it’s one of the longest interviews I’ve done. I love it.
I felt like 10 minutes to me. Yeah.
But just to conclude, you know, what’s for someone wanting to join and who are on the fence, you know, maybe they’re watching this interview. What would you, what’s one piece of advice you would give them.
I go, I go back to what I said earlier. Take that well-reasoned risk. I can say also honestly, and I’m saying this from a scientific standpoint, having applied it and looked for the results cause and effect, if you apply this, it works because it’s universal law. It’s law of nature. It’s like if you step off of a cliff, gravity is going to work every time this works, if you apply it. And so take that well-reasoned risk and do it. You really have nothing to lose. And everything to gain is my way of looking at it. And I will say also, you know, for what I paid for it, it was actually far less expensive than a lot of other programs that I have been in that didn’t get me this kind of results this quickly. So I would say take that well-reasoned risk and apply it and you can’t go wrong.
Love it. Amazing. Peter, thank you so much for joining us. You know, this was really, really insightful. Thank you so much for taking the time out and I hope you guys found value out of this as well. Feel free to leave us any comments I’m going to attach Pete, his LinkedIn, his socials, everything in the pin comments section as well. And um, yeah, I’ll see you all next time. Thanks.
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